alijsh wrote:Sisyphe, I meant that homosexuals are not will-less. What is the English for bierâde (بیاراده)? I said will-less to mean that. I must find a book online and ask you read some parts of it to fully understand what I meant. It's great you know Persian. You can read things that have little chance to be translated.
I'd be interested in reading that, yes. Bi-erâdeh is hard to translate...I'd probably say impotent or ineffectual...though those don't really capture the meaning the same way.
Alijsh wrote:No. It is not fixed. We can change because we have will. But we must be persuaded that we must change otherwise we remain fixed because we are convinced with our current status. Please don't deprive yourself of the power of will. You have yourself chosen to be gay. Do you mean that you don't like to be a homosexual but you can't because you have been born homosexual and can't change?
I used to not like being gay...but then I realized that it was more because I felt I wasn't supposed to be because of the people surrounding me telling me so, rather than it being an actual problem. So my will is to overcome intolerance and injustice, not to change something in me that's not broken to begin with. What do you make of my challenge though, Ali?
shannenms wrote:There is no need to be well-immersed in something in order to have rights to talk about it
I wasn't saying you didn't have the right to talk about it. But having the right to talk about something and being an informed voice about that subject are two different things. That is especially the case when you make pretty bold statements like 'homosexuals are a danger to society', don't you think so? I think having or not having exposure to gays makes a big difference. In the former case, you would have the opportunity to see how gays conduct themselves in society (which isn't too different, really), while in the latter case, you are only harping on an abstract concept that you have not been able to develop a well-rounded, informed opinion about.
I'll rephrase that sentence: I don't think you woke up one day and said to yourself "Gee! I'm going to be attracted to guys!" That would be a really humourous scenario, in my opinion.
But this is what people who believe that sexuality is a choice are saying...they are saying that sexuality is a conscious, premeditated choice, which makes no sense when you consider the difficulties that come with being gay. You guys have been quite kind to me and have made sure that you don't offend me, and I'm really grateful to be able to talk about this subject with Persians in that way.
But there are many people that I have encountered who do not care whether what they say or do is offensive when it comes to gays - that is a reality in much of the world, unfortunately.
I'll send you another PM in the morning.